Carla talks to Alexandre Fasel, Switzerland’s outgoing Ambassador to the UK, on Brexit, fatherhood, his favourite places in the UK and Switzerland, the role of church in society and his new role as Special Representative for Science Diplomacy in Geneva.

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Book recommendations by Ambassador Fasel:

• Tim Harford, How to Make the World Add Up
• Merlin Sheldrake, Entangled Life
• John Kay and Mervyn King, Radical Uncertainty: Decision-making for an Unknowable Future

More Tea Vicar?  is a fortnightly podcast by Reverend Carla Maurer, Minister of The Swiss Church in London.